tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post3247570776961087670..comments2012-09-02T14:31:16.233-05:00Comments on Claymate911: Clay Aiken's rabid haters discussed: Liars Anonymous ...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-56516690138087752007-03-05T19:00:00.000-05:002007-03-05T19:00:00.000-05:00New BlogNew Blognighthawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06586501253552760529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-30490676052234633212007-03-04T17:35:00.000-05:002007-03-04T17:35:00.000-05:00I would actually love to see the face of the perso...I would actually love to see the face of the person at the N & O who got this e-mail. Talk about exposing yourself as a wacko! <BR/><BR/><BR/>Remember the e-mail to the presidental committee one sent.<BR/>Remember the responce the nut case got. Didn't even realize she/he was called a nut case in so many words. LOL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-46909127321835736142007-03-04T09:24:00.000-05:002007-03-04T09:24:00.000-05:00Quote from Nighthawk: "It is when they start sprea...Quote from Nighthawk: <BR/><BR/>"It is when they start spreading their malevolence to the really public blogs, to tabloids, newspapers and news comment sections, to venues and charitiable organizations, to presidential committees, that I have an issue. It is when they impersonate Clayfans in an effort to discredit the fans and have an impact on Clay's career that I have an issue.<BR/><BR/>Quote from the recent 411 nutbars:<BR/><BR/>The News and Observer piece ....do they take comments? They should be informed about how Faiken is using BAF to further his career and NOT the other way around. Time to start setting that record straight too! Anyone know where to contact them?<BR/><BR/><BR/>I would actually love to see the face of the person at the N & O who got this e-mail. Talk about exposing yourself as a wacko!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-84347875927419342452007-03-04T08:39:00.000-05:002007-03-04T08:39:00.000-05:00It is one thing for the crazies to weave their web...It is one thing for the crazies to weave their web of lies in their own nest, but quite another to spead the lies everywhere. What they do in private by telling each other lies is bad too but there is nothing much that can be done about it. Deliberatly making up stories to spread to well known gossip blogs and to the media makes no sense. It seems inherently evil. Nothing makes much sense - creating "hate" blogs, pretending to be Clay fans to make us look bad, disrupting charities, registering on real fan sites to cause trouble, etc. It all seems criminal. I pray that one day the laws will catch up to them. Nothing is really secret on the internet and there is much buried in the databases in archives that could one day be made available to prosecutors. One can only hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-36993100814340018552007-03-04T00:25:00.000-05:002007-03-04T00:25:00.000-05:00QUOTE from Percocet:“The longer Clay refuses to be...QUOTE from Percocet:<BR/>“The longer Clay refuses to be honest and accept responsibility for his actions the longer people will call him out.”<BR/><BR/>Accept responsibility for what actions? Clay has already stated that the story was false and the webcams are fake. JP just stated the other night that he never met Clay and that the story was a hoax. What is this nutbar talking about? She refuses to believe JP now because it's not what she wants to hear. Therefore, Clay must be honest and take responsibility for the fact that the story was a hoax and the webcams are fake.<BR/><BR/>Does this moron ever listen to herself?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-22710261529668704452007-03-03T22:58:00.000-05:002007-03-03T22:58:00.000-05:00After reading more of the 411 ranting, I think Per...After reading more of the 411 ranting, I think Percoset needs to change her name to “Thorazine,” it fits her needs better. This sentence of hers,<BR/><BR/>“The longer Clay refuses to be honest and accept responsibility for his actions the longer people will call him out.”<BR/><BR/>shows a women who thinks she actually has influence on a total stranger. She seems to forget that she has admitted that she has hated him from the first time she saw him, so why would he owe her anything? She thinks she is going to call him out? Getting a little delusional there, isn’t she? How is she planning to do that? Maybe demand that he behave the way she says he should? Well, he is an adult, a very successful adult, who certainly doesn’t need a crazy like this to tell him how to behave. He isn’t the one sitting in front of a computer all day writing hate blogs about a stranger!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-86572232314297805942007-03-03T22:22:00.000-05:002007-03-03T22:22:00.000-05:00I'll be frank here. As far as I'm concerned, they...I'll be frank here. As far as I'm concerned, they can believe whatever they want to believe..that's not my concern. If they want to sit around and waste their lives and rant and obsess all day and night about that great threat to humanity, Clay Aiken, then they can knock themselves out. If they want to be stupid and gullible, that's their choice. If they want to rot their souls with the dark energy of hatred, that's their business. As long as they keep it on their own blog and/or board.<BR/><BR/>It is when they start spreading their malevolence to the really public blogs, to tabloids, newspapers and news comment sections, to venues and charitiable organizations, to presidential committees, that I have an issue. It is when they impersonate Clayfans in an effort to discredit the fans and have an impact on Clay's career that I have an issue. <BR/><BR/>I keep reading about this red herring they throw out, that they've "done nothing wrong other than have an unpopular opinion." Well, that's BS. No one cares about simply their opinion. What they care about is the <I>smear campaign,</I> the way they try to <I>spread lies</I> in such a way as to have a negative effect on Clay that people have an issue with. And it HAS been documented that they, or at least some of them, have done just that. Some of that documentation comes from 411 itself, as well as other places they hang out.<BR/><BR/>Just wanted to clear that up.<BR/><BR/>And in reference to some comments I didn't put through, I don't know how many times I need to repeat this, but here goes again: I post nowhere but here. I have no other blogs. I don't bother anyone else on their own blogs. If you have an inclination to read what I have to write, here is the only place to do it (so it's easily avoided too..lol). <BR/><BR/>Speaking of which, with all these constant developments the new blog is quite long even for me, so will be divided up into 2 or 3 sections. First one tomorrow.nighthawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06586501253552760529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-33860551146154690512007-03-03T21:38:00.000-05:002007-03-03T21:38:00.000-05:00They're all out on the golf course with OJ trying ...They're all out on the golf course with OJ trying to find the real killers of Ron and Nicole. <BR/><BR/>BWAH!!!<BR/><BR/>scam artist-in-chief and his band of looney tunes.<BR/><BR/>BWAH!!!! againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-66145785593897430932007-03-03T20:27:00.000-05:002007-03-03T20:27:00.000-05:00Clay has never communicated with JP. JP is either...Clay has never communicated with JP. JP is either being duped himself by an online imposter or he's lying through his teeth and I vote for the latter. Clay was not at the QI that night or any night. All of the hook-up stories are a lie cooked up by the scam artist- in-chief and his band of looney tunes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-54649336924035659442007-03-03T20:21:00.000-05:002007-03-03T20:21:00.000-05:00Paulass is saying that Clay was stripping in the w...Paulass is saying that Clay was stripping in the webcams for women now, except that the torso pictures are of two different men, neither of whom has Clay's body type or the correct color and texture of his chest hair.<BR/><BR/>Asshats such as these believe whatever they want despite the truth hitting them in the face. They're all out on the golf course with OJ trying to find the real killers of Ron and Nicole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-13885400667880951482007-03-03T20:09:00.000-05:002007-03-03T20:09:00.000-05:00"It really won't matter what John says at this poi..."It really won't matter what John says at this point. The damage to Clay's image is done. He did a fabulous job of dragging Clay through the mud and knocking him off that lofty perch.<BR/>MPSLC | 03.02.07 - 1:56 pm | #"<BR/><BR/>I'm sure she's enjoying every minute of it too. MPSLC is nothing more than a shallow-skinned bully with a filthy mouth. A miserable excuse for a human being. If you've read her latest blog, it is quite obvious that she also lacks critical thinking skills.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-21185704692511173672007-03-03T14:28:00.000-05:002007-03-03T14:28:00.000-05:00anon 1:17There ARE lines that can be crossed -- ev...anon 1:17<BR/><BR/>There ARE lines that can be crossed -- even for public figures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-64635996136200491152007-03-03T13:21:00.000-05:002007-03-03T13:21:00.000-05:00Their 'truth' is based on nothing but a pack of li...Their 'truth' is based on nothing but a pack of lies, a couple of bad meet and greets from some borderline stalkers with high expectations, and the animosity of a few obsessive fans of other idols and their involvement in 'idol fan wars'. <BR/><BR/>Only they are too stupid to see that.<BR/><BR/>""There is an appointed time for everything. And there <I><B>is</B></I> a time." <BR/><BR/>Yes. And I think it's almost here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-60754371965464558922007-03-03T13:17:00.000-05:002007-03-03T13:17:00.000-05:00As much as I love seeing the Web and internet liba...As much as I love seeing the Web and internet libal laws change, they still have no impact on public figures. They are still fair game for these criminals. When that changes, this crap will stop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-72748817023387045592007-03-03T12:38:00.000-05:002007-03-03T12:38:00.000-05:00More (with thanks to Anatomy of a SMear Campaign)c...More (with thanks to Anatomy of a SMear Campaign)<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_news/news_states_criminal_libel_web_internet.htm" REL="nofollow">criminal libel laws for web defamation</A> <BR/><BR/>"In Colorado, state law makes criminal libel a felony carrying up to 18 months in prison and a fine up to $100,000 for the first offense. In general, web libel is posting false information about someone that defames them, commonly accusations of criminal acts, marital infidelity, dishonesty or that you have a nasty disease.."<BR/>" In Colorado, a man received a a paltry 23 years sentence for "spreading lies on the internet", but some states are getting tougher on libel crimes."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-25668998363703861942007-03-03T12:25:00.000-05:002007-03-03T12:25:00.000-05:00I was looking around the web and found a book call...I was looking around the web and found a book called "Web Stalkers" at <A HREF="http://www.rampant-books.com/book_2004_2_stalkers.htm" REL="nofollow">this site</A> Looks interesting.<BR/><BR/>Talks about different types of web stalkers and legal actions that can be taken. Apparently Google is cooperating with law enforcement in stalking cases. They even talk about "web conspiracies" to defame and how that is illegal in several states. This is not a situation where someone "sues," but where a DA brings criminal charges. NC is one of the states that has enforcable laws. Finally, I really liked this review from the site,<BR/><BR/>" "There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time.", December 6, 2005<BR/> <BR/><BR/>"Web Stalkers" is a true revelation for anyone seeking to understand the phenomena, detailing how any malefactor can become empowered by conducting false light defamation campaigns and web conspiracies through online forums, blogs and more.<BR/><BR/>Recently a group of fanatics were targeting individuals whom they felt deserved to be vanquished online and so they set out with invasions of privacy, web conspiracies and false light defamation campaigns disguised as free speech and parody in interactive chat rooms and forums. It took some time but after years of deeply rooted contempt, false light defamation and libel they accomplished their goal.<BR/><BR/>For the first time the stratagem behind this kind of treachery is exposed. And although justice may never be served, it is all the more relevant that pause be given to recognize how embarrassingly simple it is to seduce the average person into conspiring, committing and justifying unconscionable, shameful and criminal acts.<BR/><BR/>As much as "Web Stalkers" is vindication for the victims emerging from this new frontier in communications and a guide for the future and prevention, it also serves a double role as a deterrent for would be web conspirators and stalkers who may not be aware that they are also would be criminals as well. Unfortunately for far too many normally average everyday people it is too late... The anonymity and the immediacy of this new form of communication has brought out the worst in them.<BR/><BR/>At least with a book like "Web Stalkers" there is some closure and vindication for those who have been searching for this information for years. After reading it, the criminal wrongdoing that has always been suspect of being present online but never really clearly defined, is finally revealed. There is no second-guessing any of it anymore.<BR/><BR/>As for the new age of criminals, "There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time." <BR/><BR/>Looks like a must-read book!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-6384490088195786092007-03-03T09:28:00.000-05:002007-03-03T09:28:00.000-05:00Amazing! These people are so dumb that they are st...Amazing! These people are so dumb that they are still trying to get explanations for this fake story. Asking about who took the webcams, to dumb to see that there never were webcams! Photoshop is so easy. Asking about penis bumps, to dumb to see that that detail, like all of them, were made up for show. Everything, from the first syllable, to the last phony email, is fake! Are they really too stupid to see that? No "facts" anywhere to explain! Gads, I hate stupid people!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-79673577957761685602007-03-03T00:33:00.000-05:002007-03-03T00:33:00.000-05:00I don't, nor have I ever believed that JP has had ...I don't, nor have I ever believed that JP has had any kind of contact with Clay; but there are certain things he said that gel with some of the information fans have gathered...<BR/><BR/>Yes fans gathered, and JP stole or was helped. PERIOD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-45657651272098315992007-03-02T21:13:00.000-05:002007-03-02T21:13:00.000-05:00Anonymous said,Boy, would I ever love to see them ...Anonymous said,<BR/><BR/>Boy, would I ever love to see them get the retribution they so justly deserve. <BR/><BR/>-----------<BR/><BR/>Oh they will! Their retribution is coming this summer. Clay is touring. He is not depressed. His career will continue and he will have a successful career despite them.<BR/>They have said and done their worst and failed. JP and 411 are imploding.<BR/><BR/>Karma has arrived. Whoopee!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-26639940730249608782007-03-02T20:17:00.000-05:002007-03-02T20:17:00.000-05:00The maggot is just pissed because his 411 groupies...The maggot is just pissed because his 411 groupies have dumped him. He is still trying to convince them, and anyone else, that he has had communication with Clay, when no one with two brain cells to rub together believes that. Oh, I guess the 411er's do!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-68091842061997430372007-03-02T20:13:00.000-05:002007-03-02T20:13:00.000-05:00maggi said... " Does anyone think we will ever k...maggi said...<BR/><BR/> " Does anyone think we will ever know who is at the bottom of this smear campaign?"<BR/><BR/>Who knows. I see comments like this from the 411/CFS blog<BR/> <BR/>"It really won't matter what John says at this point. The damage to Clay's image is done. He did a fabulous job of dragging Clay through the mud and knocking him off that lofty perch.<BR/>MPSLC | 03.02.07 - 1:56 pm | #"<BR/><BR/>and I can completely believe that some of those maggots are involved with this in some way. Thay are so sick and demented and deluded that it is mind boggling, but then I guess they say the person who's insane is the last person to be aware of it. <BR/><BR/>I don't doubt that Clay will triumph in the end and I think they overinflate the success of their little smear campaign, but that's because they lie so much and believe so many lies that they don't know whats really true. Boy, would I ever love to see them get the retribution they so justly deserve. Who knows if it'll happen though? The thing is, they have to live with themselves and someday they'll wake up from this insanity and realize they were wrong and realize what they tried to do to a good man. Bad karma, very very bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-56337455602700288662007-03-02T15:27:00.000-05:002007-03-02T15:27:00.000-05:00Does anyone think we will ever know who is at the ...Does anyone think we will ever know who is at the bottom of this smear campaign? Will TC or whoever be able to do something about it? Or has it already been done? I wish the rags would print a retraction...I guess though that "When Pigs Fly" the rags will print a retraction after trying to ruin Clay's good name<BR/>MaggiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-40372988503469511892007-03-02T14:14:00.000-05:002007-03-02T14:14:00.000-05:00I cannot imagine CA ever talking to "it" , that se...I cannot imagine CA ever talking to "it" , that seems to be something "it" wants to maintain. This whole thing has been just one big internet (and tabloid) tall tale with the pickle wanting fame no matter what kind or how. Perc is just as sick as Pickle. Haven't they both proven they are crazy together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-19178630164801391642007-03-02T13:04:00.000-05:002007-03-02T13:04:00.000-05:00What an interesting night it was last night. The ...What an interesting night it was last night. The guy who has been lying for nearly a year about hooking up with Clay Aiken has finally come clean about the fact that it was just one big lie and part of a broader smear campaign. While I don't believe everything he said (see the title of this blog ...hard to know just when to believe a liar) I know at least that element of truth to be legitimate. And the "haters" don't like that truth one bit. But then, they always knew it...they just don't like that he's admitting the lie and the fact that he is implicating some of them in it.<BR/><BR/>Honestly, I think all of these people are psychotic on some level...all of them. JP, Percocet, Dramamine, mpslc, Groucho, etc., etc. If it weren't for the fact that it's someone's real life they have been trying to negatively effect -- Clay Aiken's -- I would call their freak-show morbidly fascinating and bring out the popcorn.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, JP (or someone) has now deleted his comments, but of course they were all first saved. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out. Let's hope that JP finally salvages some modicum of integrity from the cess pool of the past year and continues to admit his role in this ongoing, unjust, smear campaign.nighthawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06586501253552760529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-529456179444756331.post-42704639914683867382007-03-01T12:55:00.000-05:002007-03-01T12:55:00.000-05:00What's weird is the "FOOLS" really think CA's care...What's weird is the "FOOLS" really think CA's career is dependent on them. They are forever spouting their <BR/>so called advice. To my knowledge Clay has never done anything remotely <BR/>similar to the rantings of the "FOOLS" and probably never will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com